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Opera, Mozilla, and IE get together at a Yahoo-hosted event

March 5, 2007

This past week Yahoo hosted a panel discussion entitled “Browser Wars Episode II: Attack of the DOMs” in which the three big Windows browser makers attended.

Chris Wilson –Platform Architect for Internet Explorer (IE), Mike Shavor –Technology Strategist at Mozilla, and Hakon Wium Lie –Chief Technology Officer at Opera Software, all spoke at the event. Noticeably missing was anyone from Apple’s Safari team. Apple, however, declined an invitation to this gathering of the other major browser venders, saying that they were busy writing software.

Below is the video of the remarks by Microsoft, Mozilla, and Opera.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/player/media/swf/FLVVideoSolo.swf

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  1. garlic
    March 5, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    Hakon rulez, yo!!!!

    Seriously, quite dissapointing speeches by the Mozilla and Microsoft guys, no content at all (at one moment it seemed that the Mozilla guy was going to talk about xul and so on but…).

    On the other hand, nice to see the internal Opera build showing the Ogg videos and the ovation Hakon received when proposing the native support for audio and video. Oh, and the joke with Acid2 and IE7 was really good.

  2. March 5, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    “…Below is the video of the remarks by Microsoft, Mozilla, and Opera…”

    (Don’t see any video link) … However would prefer a transcript of discussion 😉

  3. March 5, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    Investor, I’m not sure why you couldn’t see the video. I added a link to the video in my post above.

  4. March 5, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Daniel… see it now… thanks 😉

  5. Jonathan
    March 5, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    Yes, I would like a transcript as well. It was quite informative, thanks for letting us know, Daniel Goldman.

    Furthermore, I like the joke about Acid2 and IE as well. It is hilarious that IE 7 is actually more or less at the same level as Opera 3.6 from 1998!

  6. Frederik
    March 5, 2007 at 7:21 pm

    Hm, now there’s a video about Opera and it makes Opera crash… I really hope Flashplayer 9 will one day work well with Opera on Linux…

    Until then, nice that it’s so easy to disable plugins in Opera, so I can at least write this comment. And I can use other browsers for watching the vid.

  7. WildEnte
    March 5, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    those were the talks – is there also a video or a transcript of the questions and answers from the panel discussion following it?

  8. March 5, 2007 at 8:13 pm

    I haven’t seen any transcripts of the Q&A session.

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  10. treego
    March 5, 2007 at 10:58 pm

    @Frederik: It seems that Opera (Hakon Wium Lie –Chief Technology Officer at Opera Software) is interested in wanting browsers to be non-dependent of plugins for video/audio in the near future. It’d be nice for some websites to make their video/audio work better with Opera in the meantime. It’s hard to live without resorting to other browsers because of this. And, I really think this hurts Opera’s ability to be the chosen/primary browser of many. As soon as a problem arises like this that other browsers handle with no problem, the tendency of many is to write-off the ‘offending’ browser as incompetent or buggy or some such thing—the result being Opera losing another potential convert.

    http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/show.dml/797600

  11. March 5, 2007 at 11:17 pm

    Excellent video. Wow. Incredibly ingenious. I would have never thought that a video could be treated the same as an image in a webpage. Yay for native support.

  12. March 6, 2007 at 12:43 am

    That was great. Thanks for posting it… 😉

  13. FyberOptic
    March 6, 2007 at 2:18 am

    Kind of ironic that Yahoo hosted it, considering they’ve been notoriously lazy in supporting Opera. Their Yahoo TV Listings not displaying properly for months and months (on the previous design) being just one of the examples.

  14. cap
    March 6, 2007 at 3:56 am

    Yahoo is a huge company. One part probably has no idea what other parts of the company do.

  15. Jonathan
    March 6, 2007 at 7:35 am

    They talked about “first-class video/audio citizen” and Ogg Vorbis support. Will this mean that a future version of Opera will support Ogg Vorbis audio? This would be a great addition, since many Wikipedia articles use this format.

    PS: I am normally using Opera, but now I am forced to use IE on a public computer.

  16. March 6, 2007 at 8:18 am

    Did he say there were problems with Matroska? I didn’t hear that bit very well.

  17. djp
    March 6, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    I was looking for a video or transcript of the Q&A Session as well, but so far nothing.

    From http://ajaxian.com/archives/browser-wars-mozilla-ie-opera-join-up-for-a-panel-discussion

    “@Mathieu — I’m not planning to do more footage from the event, as the WebBuilder organization that organized it is planning to issue a DVD and make the content available at a later date. If you want more Douglas Crockford, though, head over to the YUI Theater — several hours of Virtual Douglas are available there. Regards, Eric Miraglia, YUI Team”

  18. Jadd
    March 8, 2007 at 10:21 am

    Good video. I think everyone would agree Opera’s participation was by far the most interesting (though less unbiassed). For one thing, Håkon Lie was the only person to get spontanious applause.
    You should make those kind of speeches more often, Håkon!

  19. dawpa2000
    March 12, 2007 at 12:22 am

    Internet Explorer and Mozilla were boring.
    Opera made it interesting.

  20. March 14, 2007 at 1:53 am

    I was there too!

    http://flickr.com/search/?q=opera&w=70483566%40N00

    Hakon rocked the house!!
    Also, Firefox guy wasn’t too bad either – youthful and intelligent. Microsoft was kind of an a-hole 😮
    All in all, a very fun night.

    Plus Opera’s got some amazing new builds coming up! With built-in video player no less!

  21. March 14, 2007 at 1:55 am

    here’s Hakon with the tiny OLAP laptop. Way cool 🙂

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