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A look ahead at Opera 9 (Merlin)

September 20, 2005

With the release today of Opera 8.5, we’re already eager to know what’s in store for the next major release, Opera 9 (codename Merlin).

Well, Opera has been working on version 9 for sometime already and according to Tim Altman, from Opera QA, they are “getting ever closer to releasing a preview”.

Major parts of the layout engine have been rewritten for this release, according to Olafur Arnason, a Windows Test Manager at Opera (who goes by the nickname Olli on the Opera forums). In addition, Opera is also working on improving the browser’s standards support by adding XSLT, some CSS3 support, WebForms 2 and more.

Rich Text Editing support for Web pages will also be included in Opera 9.

And on the mail side, IMAP is being worked into Opera’s mail client.

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  1. Anonymous
    September 20, 2005 at 7:59 pm

    Awesome! Can’t wait for the preview.

  2. Anonymous
    September 20, 2005 at 8:07 pm

    finally, all my dreams come true πŸ˜€

    registering opera7 wasn’t that bad, but now it becomes even more interesting πŸ˜€

  3. Anonymous
    September 20, 2005 at 8:57 pm

    Who cares??

    If the new Opera is as bad as the version 7 and 8, I won’t be using it.

    I loaded up Opera 7 and Opera 8 several times each trying to make them work as well as Opera 6+. Impossible!! What klunkers!!

    Opera 6.03, 6.04 and 6.06 were great, better than any other browser in the world. But now the graphics and User Interface are so bad that Opera is becoming easily as bad as Navigator or Mozilla or FireFox or any number of other sorry browsers on the market.

    Internet Explorer may eventually end up being the best browser around.

    What a shame!!

    Ron
    Webmaster from Texas

  4. September 20, 2005 at 9:22 pm

    I thought someone in Opera once said that XSLT is ugly (and that’s why XSLT is not implemented in Opera_. Now they implement it anyway… I guess it’s due to pressure from mainstream browsers that support XSLT.

  5. Anonymous
    September 20, 2005 at 9:26 pm

    I hope that the webmaster at this blog site will razz Opera nonstop and in public until Opera returns to the superior quality coding and smoothness of the Opera 6 series.

    The graphics color on the Opera 7 and 8 series are as sorry and as unrealistic as the vastly overrated Firefox browser. Graphics of outdoor scenes look like something off a color-blind punk rock album.

    Why is it that every time a software company starts making some money, they hire more people and quality immediately goes down and useless bloatware goes up?

    Opera 6+ was probably the greatest browser in the world, but now they have become just plain sorry.

    Opera is becoming as sorry as Yahoo email, all kinds of “cool new features” that work like crap (when they work at all).

    Anonymous Web Designer from Los Angeles, California

  6. Anonymous
    September 20, 2005 at 10:46 pm

    QUOTE: “Opera 6+ was probably the greatest browser in the world, but now they have become just plain sorry. Opera is becoming as sorry as Yahoo email, all kinds of “cool new features” that work like crap (when they work at all). Anonymous Web Designer from Los Angeles, California”

    Opera 6 has small support for standards.. so we see the kind of web master you are. Please go back to your IE-only coding and quit the stupid rants.

  7. September 20, 2005 at 11:03 pm

    That’s odd, I kinda remember Opera 6 to have far more rendering bugs and a hell of a slower renderer than the one introduced with Opera 7. Some webmasters you are. πŸ˜› Spend some time with Opera 8.5 and you can make it work just like Opera 6. I only wonder if someone will develop an ad bar for the purists (like that ads-in-Firefox extension..)

    I definitely look forward to Opera 9. There are a multitude of features people are suggesting that would be great, but I think first and foremost should be the user interface – make it even more appealing, especially if you wanna be number two in the market.

  8. Anonymous
    September 21, 2005 at 3:47 am

    Are you talking to yourselves, so-called outdated webmasters, a.k.a Internet sock puppets! Don’t be so funny.

  9. Anonymous
    September 21, 2005 at 5:40 am

    If the colours are gong mad, this sounds more like a limitation of your graphics card (relating to the way the Opera 7+ uses shaded skins);
    * You might want to try changing skin to the native one (tools – appearence)
    * See if you can increase the number of colours that your display should use. 24 bit or higher if possible
    * make sure that your ‘zoom’ is set to 100% (low colour depth causes freaky colour blending on some systems)

    Failing that, could you provide a screenshot so we can try to diagnose your problem, because at the moment, we have nothing to go on as to what the actual problem is?

  10. Anonymous
    September 21, 2005 at 5:46 am

    Why is this guy posting about Opera 6 and pretending to be two different people?

    “I thought someone in Opera once said that XSLT is ugly (and that’s why XSLT is not implemented in Opera_.”

    Not quite. That was XSL-FO. XSLT is not really the same thing AFAIK.

  11. September 21, 2005 at 8:54 am

    > Not quite. That was XSL-FO. XSLT is not really the same thing AFAIK.

    Ah! You’re right. Anyway, both XSLT and XSL-FO are based on XSL, a stuff that can remove semantic of document easily.

  12. September 21, 2005 at 1:30 pm

    There hasn’t been that much pressure to add XSLT because, frankly, client-side transformation is hardly used on the net. What websites actually use is way more important than what the other browsers support.

    The main concern (especially with mobile) is the size of the implementation.

    My personal impression is that we added XSLT partly because somebody got bored and thought it was a fun challenge to see if they could write a small enough engine (don’t quote me to an XSLT zealot!). πŸ™‚

  13. Anonymous
    September 21, 2005 at 8:38 pm

    Ron, hey its Rob A from BBR. I say again too you, opera is what you make it! http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,14407882

  14. Anonymous
    September 22, 2005 at 10:48 am

    yes i want a new opera6 too.

    fuck opera 7+8 crashing permanently 😦

  15. September 22, 2005 at 11:02 am

    To anonymous above,

    Please watch your language, lets keep this a family friendly site.

  16. September 22, 2005 at 4:11 pm

    Sorry folks, i have no clue what you are talking about. I am using Opera since Ver. 5 now and i never ever had a problem with the stability of the program. I admit that there are some new features that might not be necessary but in my personal opinion Opera is the browser number one.

  17. Joachim
    September 22, 2005 at 5:28 pm

    I must say, my opera 7 used to crash sometimes, too. (win and lin) but now its all stable. And its the best browser on earth (even more since 7.0)

  18. September 22, 2005 at 10:10 pm

    IMAP already works: what is new about that? Hope some other mail-related things will be improved (esp. accuracy of search and false double mails in the draft-view).

    I got some stability problems since Opera 8.02, might be because of the QuickTime Plug-in 7.0.2 – I have to test it out (it is not as worse, after reopening I still have the same tabs open).

  19. Anonymous
    September 23, 2005 at 1:07 am

    XSLT is a quite nice Idea. Lot or RSS stuff will be much more usable with an own Template πŸ™‚ its just the right time for it. I cant wait to see the improvments of IMAP too, lot of providers new featured stuff is based on IMAP. Hope it will be a fine implementation. The Email-Client in Opera sucks at moment.

  20. Anonymous
    September 23, 2005 at 2:46 am

    I am using Opera since ver. 5 and even though I see, why people like Firefox, I’m still sticking with it. It might not reach FF’s transfer rate when loading a site, but it renders much faster. Pitty, though, that there are still so many websites that are not supported, which work in FF.

    IMAP? I thought this was already in? Actually some kind of groupware possibility would be nice. If not for exchange, then maybe for Hula, OpenXChange or MDaemon. Actually, Opera is just calendar away from being my desktop :-).

    XSLT is ugly? You won’t get around it if you want to support XML so it’s got to get in.

    And again: could someone please give me some HTML-editing for mails? Plain-text sucks for business-mails.

    What else? Contact import/export with Outlook, Thunderbird, etc., eventually even for mails.

    Well, still, I love Opera and will not swich to FF for now. Let’s see,what Opera 9 and FF 1.5/2.0 will have to offer.

  21. Anonymous
    September 23, 2005 at 3:57 am

    Instead of XSLT, I want to see full SVG 1.1 support in Opera 9! That would be a feature to become world’s #1 browser…

  22. Jeroen
    September 23, 2005 at 6:04 am

    Did you see this post: http://weblog.timaltman.com/node/794#comment-729

    8.60 TP 1 ? Reminds me of 7.60 previews…

  23. September 26, 2005 at 2:42 am

    NTLM authorization: A must for corporate environments.

    As Opera claims to reach for the #2 spot in the browser market, I consider it unavoidable to add NTLM proxy authentication seamlessly into the product.

    This is a very common requirement in enterprise environments, and NTLM authentication is feasible with Firefox since it’s early version.

    Opera’s help pages link to a third party tool which might look smelly to corporate IT admins, or advises you to change your proxy setup allowing plain-text basic authentication.

    Safely, huh?

  24. Anonymous
    October 9, 2005 at 3:11 am

    Tried a number of browser last weekend to get away from IE. Really liked Opera 8.5 until I started working the next day and noticed that I cannot access most of my companies ressources (Missing NTLM authentication). Well, I am on Firefox now. If Opera 9 adds this feature I will certainly reconsider Opera.

  25. Anonymous
    October 12, 2005 at 10:17 am

    i too have been using opera since 5 series and yes, have had a few crashes – but not too many… and every release has been more stable and increased overal office productivity… the m2 mail client is a great system – look forward to trying the IMAP support…

    The email HTML rendering is strange (HTML that looks fine in browser show up distorted in email)

    hopefully this issue and others are smoothed out in opera 9…

  26. November 16, 2005 at 11:23 pm

    Is there a release already planed? I’m looking for an upgrade, if it is stable.

  27. November 16, 2005 at 11:31 pm

    Robert,

    Only a Technical Preview version of Opera 9 has been released as of this time. It doesn’t have the quality and stability of a beta version yet, so use it at you own risk.

  28. Wlodzislaw
    December 2, 2005 at 3:53 am

    The two major problems with Opera are:

    1) with the university proxy + firewall (www.ntu.edu.sg) it frequently takes a long time to start page transfers, and does not show me anything before ending. Sometimes I give up and use FF that seems to deal better with our environment.

    2) I cannot enter some university pages because “authorisation method is not suppored”. Only Opera has this problem and the advice to convince admin to change the system is a joke.

    I do hope that opera 9 will improve in these respects as this is the best browser, but unfortunately in our environment, not usable …

  29. Anonymous
    December 8, 2005 at 5:07 am

    Yap, same case with NTLM here. Using and office lan which runs on a proxy which needs authentication. I really like Opera and I would like this function to be included in opera 9. Now I gotta use firefox.

    I agree with the guy above that, telling your admin to change the login system as laughable.. πŸ™‚

  30. SMS
    November 25, 2006 at 4:42 am

    I am looking forward for that rich text editing format!

    Thanks a lot for your information

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