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Google Maps on Opera

February 8, 2005

Here we go again, yet another Google service is incompatible with the Opera browser.

Google released today Google Maps, which offers road maps and directions. It makes heavy use of (the non-standard) Java Script and DHTML (and XSLT).

Opera follows the Java Script standards that are provided by standards bodies, such as the W3C. Companies often make their own proprietary extensions to these standards, making it sometimes difficult for Opera to render the page properly.

This is not Opera’s first run-in with Google. In versions prior to Opera 8.0, Gmail didn’t work properly. Gmail introduced XMLHttpRequest, which is not currently part of a standard, forcing Opera to implement XMLHttpRequest support in version 8.0. XMLHttpRequest started as a proprietary extension to Internet Explorer.

Blogger (owned by Google) doesn’t work in Opera 8.0 neither does Google Suggest.

If you’re unhappy with Google’s treatment of Opera, let them know about it.

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  1. Anonymous
    February 8, 2005 at 2:09 pm

    Yes, I am extremely unhappy with that.

  2. Anonymous
    February 8, 2005 at 6:52 pm

    Yes, but is what they’re trying to do possible with Opera’s support of standards? Is it possible with any open standard? Maybe we should blame the W3C or whoever for not defining a rich enough model.

  3. February 8, 2005 at 7:18 pm

    I use Opera 8.0 and Blogger.com. It works far better than GMail, Groups2, Maps, or Suggest.

    Actually, only two things I can think of with Blogger and Opera 8.0B1 and that would be a display error on the Blogger.com main page around the login box, and not being able to use the WYSIWYG editor. Neither are really problems tho.

  4. February 8, 2005 at 10:38 pm

    XMLHTTPRequest is not *extirely* non-standard. Similar feature is known as load() in DOM level 3. Checkout the documentations (and PHP5’s DOM).

  5. February 9, 2005 at 3:16 am

    Also, note that JavaScript, unlike other web standards, is not defined by any standard bodies (ECMAScript, in simple terms, is just a superset of JavaScript [Netscape] and JScript [Microsoft]). Opera also support lots of “non-standard” features like document.all and attachEvent. So there is nothing wrong for Google to use XMLHTTPRequest as most web browser support it (IE/Moz/Safari).

  6. February 10, 2005 at 8:40 am

    FYI, XMLHTTPRequest is NOT used in Google Maps. It doesn’t work in Opera as Opera does not have suppport of XSLT. Opera even said “Formatting Objects Considered Harmful”, so the chance of using Google Maps in Opera is… well, very small.

  7. February 10, 2005 at 9:21 am

    minghong, I did not say the Google Maps uses XMLHttpRequest. Gmail uses it.

  8. Anonymous
    February 11, 2005 at 9:42 am

    Um. Why does everybody say that Google Suggest doesn’t work in Opera? I’m using 7.54 and it works just peachy for me….

  9. February 11, 2005 at 9:51 am

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  10. February 11, 2005 at 9:52 am

    Here is the problem with Google Suggest:

    Start typing your the word “Browser”, then earase it and type insead “Opera browser”. You will notice that it wont give you any suggestions for the updated query, rather it will still show the ones for “Browser”.

    This problem exist only on Opera 8.0.

  11. Anonymous
    February 13, 2005 at 3:44 pm

    I blame the W3C for being too slow at standardizing XML and XSLT bindings to the Javascript global object context inside HTML.

    But then, I suppose that’s why the WhatWG was formed.

    Opera (the company) should be more proactive in defining useful standards. Microsoft should be more proactive in following the standards. Google should be more proactive in advancing the state of the art (oh – they already do that. My fault)

    – RichB

  12. Downl
    February 16, 2005 at 4:26 pm

    The way I see it, thanks to Google’s GMail, webmasters/users can finally implement/enjoy better web interfaces in most browsers, and I certainly hope Opera will finally be forced to implement XSLTProcessor (supported by both msIE & Mozilla), and maybe other useful technologies as long as they have been adopted industry-wide. The “Formatting Objects Considered Harmful” doc is just a fancy way of saying something like “someone could paint cars with ugly colors so we better not use them.”

  13. March 8, 2005 at 11:44 am

    Stupid question, and I’m sorry I’m coming late to the party, but as a user of both Opera (v7) and Blogger, what’s the incompatibility?

  14. March 8, 2005 at 11:49 am

    In version 8, you can’t preview the blog post.

  15. Dan
    June 3, 2005 at 11:24 am

    Google apparently replaced the XML XSLT part, and since the GMaps page is now standards compliant, it works OK in Opera 8.

    http://www.google.com/intl/en/googleblog/2005/02/on-map.html

  16. Anonymous
    August 18, 2005 at 4:17 pm

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  17. May 13, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    I used to have problems with Gmail and was extremely unhappy because of it. Today I’m fully satisfied with the work of opera.

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